Hitachi Sata HDD fault?
stevecox1968 - 28 January 2009 - 5:37pm
I have just got my hands on a nice shiney new hitachi deskstar 250g hard drive model number hdp725025gla380. I already have 2 sata drives and when the pc boots they come up and are visable via part of the post sequence. My dealings with sata is you just plug them in and away you go but this new drive disrupts the pc and as a reult will not boot. I get.................
scan device please wait...........
press tab key into user window
hardware initiate failed please check devices!!!
the bios does not be installed. Press <g> to continue!
the drive is plugged into channel 2 on the motherboard and is replacing another 250g seagate sata drive. The drive is not the one with windows on and is just being used for storage so i was expecting to see a reference to a hitachi drive on channel 2 on one of the post screens but got the above message instead. When i plug the seagate back in it shows and the pc boots as normaI.
I think the drive is faulty and needs to go back to the shop what do you thinK?
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28 January 2009 - 6:33pm
It certainly looks like it.
It certainly looks like it. You can find links to the Hitachi Diagnostics oon the link below, you could download and run it, but I doubt if it will help if the disk is not seen by the BIOS. Sending it back is probably your best bet.
TomD
28 January 2009 - 6:56pm
Cheers for that. Just one
Cheers for that. Just one question though, sata drive do just plug in and go?
28 January 2009 - 11:10pm
Yes, there are no jumpers to
Yes, there are no jumpers to set.
TomD
29 January 2009 - 5:57am
I think i have got to the
I think i have got to the bottom of this now my motherboard with only deal with sata drive with a transfer rate of 150 mbps and the drive I have is higher. I thought that the higher rate was sata 2 and the drive was advertised as sata. When I went back to the websie and read the spec it does mention the data rate but I ignored all that as I was confident that this drive was just sata and the same as the two sata drives already running in my system. All I have to do is convince pcworld that its not entirely my fault that I chose this incorrectly but I wont hold my breath.
29 January 2009 - 1:13pm
SATA_SATA2
You have discovered a useful bit of knowledge. I always thought SATA2(3Gbps) was backward compatible with SATA, but it seems it is not. Some drives have jumpers which can force the compatibility and others don't. This piece from Wikipedia explains it -
SATA 1.5Gb/s and SATA 3Gb/s
The designers of SATA aimed for backward and forward compatibility with future revisions of the SATA standard.[17]
According to the hard drive manufacturer Maxtor, motherboard host controllers using the VIA and SIS chipsets VT8237, VT8237R, VT6420, VT6421L, SIS760, SIS964 found on the ECS 755-A2 manufactured in 2003, do not support SATA 3Gb/s drives. To address interoperability problems, the largest hard drive manufacturer, Seagate/Maxtor, has added a user-accessible jumper-switch known as the Force 150, to switch between 150 MB/s and 300 MB/s operation. Users with a SATA 1.5Gb/s motherboard with one of the listed chipsets should either buy an ordinary SATA 1.5Gb/s hard disk, buy a SATA 3Gb/s hard disk with the user-accessible jumper, or buy a PCI or PCI-E card to add full SATA 3Gb/s capability and compatibility. Western Digital uses a jumper setting called "OPT1 Enabled" to force 150 MB/s data transfer speed. OPT1 is used by putting the jumper on pins 5 & 6
If they will not take it back, it looks like you will have to buy a PCI card to use it.
TomD
29 January 2009 - 7:30pm
Well that an interesting
Well that an interesting artcle. I tell you its completely driving me up the wall looking for a sata drive that is compatable with my AK77 600GN motherboard!
17 April 2009 - 9:06am
sata150 without jumper
Hello.
For SATA2 Hitachi Hard Disk not recognized by above mentioned chipset:
Hitachi give an utility (under dos, bootable floppy or CD)
(find it here http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/support/download.htm#FeatureTool)
that can force (set) drive sata speed to 150 or 300 for backward and forward compatibility.
Sata speed setting for HD are reversible every time you want.
That works very fine with my Hitachi 500GB SATA2 on my BIOSTAR IDEQ (M7VBA motherboard) that not recognize the Hard Disk.
I set the drive speed on a different system that recognize the HD, and then mount it back on my system.
Regards
K.
29 November 2009 - 4:06pm
Hitatchi - M7VBA
Hi all, I'm curently having a very difficult time with these 2 components, I have clocked down the drive to 1.5Gbps, Downloaded the drivers for sata from biostar but the furthest I got was almost installing XP but then I got the BSOD, I now cant see the drive in the BIOS and im feeling a little stumped. I thought maybe updating the BIOS but the link on the website doesnt work. any ideas???
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